Dr. Hesser has been a farmer or assisted farmers for over 70 years with USAID and other organizations and provides this critical review of Soysoap after witnessing some amazing wheat results. This is Dr. Hessers 2nd review of Soysoap interviewing the farmer that introduced the product to North Carolina.





Dr. Hesser: Well, NC Farmer, I must say Iíve really enjoyed the time here at your farm and watching you do the harvest, especially the oats. Your oats crop is just absolutely marvelous. But tell me a little bit about it.

NC Farmer: Itís some of the best oats I've ever got. Usually in the area Oats grown are black, not like these really yellow shinny oats. I mean, I've grown oats all my life and whatís amazing they are making these high yields and they are standing up, you know, in the past we know good oats and I would have to they would log and blow down and Iíd have to get under them and all and loose them in in order to get them. But these are still standing and they've got that largest stalks that I have ever seen in oats, I have never seen stalks that look like these.

Dr. Hesser: I havenít either.

NC Farmer: I am telling you, itís just amazing. And I got this field here it's got about 16 acres in it and Iíve got JD 9600 combine and with the bean extension and all on it, and I wasn't expecting not to get our way around the field, but I didnít get around the 16 acres with the bean extension. But before the whistle blowed and told me I was full. And I had to get the truck to come and empty. So I've never had that kind of yield before.

Don Wilshe: Note when the NC Farmer went to cut the oats I asked the farmer who had grown oats for 40 years. How many rounds of the fields do you think you will have to make of this 18 acre field before the full bin whistle on the combine. He said he could make 2 rounds to fill the bin with extensions, but didnt even make one.

Dr. Hesser: Yeah. What do you think it's yielding?

NC Farmer: Probably, at least a 100 its well over 100, I would say 110 to 120 bushels. Note "turned out to be 133 bushel average"

Dr. Hesser: Yeah.

NC Farmer: And I've never had that kind of yield.

Dr. Hesser: Oh yeah. What were your yields before on a good year?

NC Farmer: Well, I have seen 100 bushel yield, but I have never seen 115, 120 or whatever. Note "We had seen pockets of wheat grown at 160 bushels and acre based on the combine monitor"!

Dr. Hesser: Yeah.

NC Farmer: And we are having that this time. Yeah, this is just amazing, I mean and what has made this very yield I mean, we might have a little bit spot about size or something, wind twist it down there, you know, we had some bad winds here about four weeks ago. And so it happened at night and I felt I said to the wife, it gives all oats, and the next morning, I got here, I couldnít believe they still all standing. So I mean itís amazing, there got to be something on this soysoap is causing whole lot stronger stalk and that's what I am seeing indeed.

Dr. Hesser: Excellent, excellent. What are your neighbors thinking about it?

NC Farmer: They are looking very hard at it now, they are using it this time only. Oats, well, now I am thinking they are raising up, but they are raising wheat, barley and I, they sprayed it on it and they are seeing a big difference in the yields now only.

Dr. Hesser: Yeah.

NC Farmer: So and I would say itís really a coming time.

Dr. Hesser: Excellent, excellent scale of oats, what do you think your neighbors are going to do next year?

NC Farmer: Well, I think they really get it this year and they tried it only just one week out. They are saying that they are just going wide open and putting it on beans and corn and everything this time.

Dr. Hesser: Everything.

NC Farmer: Yeah. And they are really thrilled of the what they are seeing on this week, you know, I mean everyone to put it on the winter week just amazed what itís done and there is a few out there still and they are amazed at the yields. So you know itís ripe little earlier in oats than what it normally does and so then they are thrilled with that because they are going to get another double crop, so itís just Ė it's amazing.

Dr. Hesser: Another farmer is telling me he hasnít had as many pest problems after using this, do you experience that?

NC Farmer: Yeah, I have experienced that with my oats, you know, I did have the bugs and all that we normally have and I didnít use any spray at all on these except the soysoap.

Dr. Hesser: Really?

NC Farmer: And so that's going to be a first.

Dr. Hesser: Yeah. At least one or two farmers said they were trying it on tobacco at least try it on tobacco.

NC Farmer: That's what they are telling me, I donít raise any tobacco, but my cousins does and they say they are going to try.

Dr. Hesser: Going to try?

NC Farmer: Yeah. And I can't believe that they still won't, is based is picking up this time because I wasnít expecting lot of use of it until overnight.

Dr. Hesser: Yeah, you were the only person to use it last year.

NC Farmer: Right.

Dr. Hesser: And based on that we got eight or ten people using it this year.

NC Farmer: At least 10.

Dr. Hesser: At least 10 or 12. And next year it really going to go. "As it turned out after the first of 2 double crops and the 10 farmers telling their other farmer fields the total farmers for 2008 were 89 farmers as the word spread fast. And the test fields were on a highly visible road that connected 2 countries Yadkin and Davie."

NC Farmer: Yes, I think it will.

Dr. Hesser: Amazing.

Don Wilshe:: Freddie, you had mentioned, last night we had our conversation with a gentlemen who had that 64 test weight on his wheat and he said, he had to be real careful about filling his trucks up now.

NC Farmer: Yeah.

Dr. Hesser: Because he was concerned, what was he saying?

NC Farmer: No, now your test weight is high, weight in oats, it don't take as many bushel to fill a truck, because youíve got more weight per bushel. And if you fill it up like normal, you are going to be overweight because you got more weight per bushel. And that increases your weight overall and when you put on a load it will be overweight.

Dr. Hesser: And then what happens?

NC Farmer: Then the police man writes you a ticket for overweight, so you donít want that. "The farmers because of the test weight are filling their grain haulers only 90%"

Don Wilshe: These overweight beans, do you think they are more than likely have a higher protein in them or certainly something that weighing right?

NC Farmer: Something is adding it to it, I mean itís, I mean we've raised beans and oat in the past and last year our beans the test weight was up on them and we are going as high as 58 pound. And normally within the 54 or 55 range, and last year we've seen a significant increase. It went from 57, 58 pound before we had used the soap. And so and that was on one spraying. And I am on double spray this year and see if it increases, you know, I am more on the 60 pound test weight on beans or better. And I mean that will mean a lot more bushels in the end because we raise that 1500, 1600 acres.

Dr. Hesser: Oh boy yeah.

NC Farmer: So if we get that much of an increase that's going to be a lot of bushels and lot more money in hand.

Dr. Hesser: Sure. How big are the beans when you spray it?

NC Farmer: Normally about four inches high, but now we are going to spray some little bit lower than that this time, the first time.

Dr. Hesser: Yeah.

NC Farmer: And then we are going to come back, we use Roundup with the Roundup Ready bean and we sprung over the top after they cover the ground and all. And so we are going to spray the second time for the Roundup bean. So last year we just used it with Roundup about four to six inches high.

Dr. Hesser: So this time you are going to do maybe about three inches high and then two or three weeks later spray with the latter green.

NC Farmer: Yeah. And I think we will see a significant increase by doing that.

Dr. Hesser: I bet you will.

Don Wilshe:: Freddie, you are going to get some test weight on your oats this year also?

NC Farmer: Yes.

Don Wilshe:: So you are hopeful you've been getting three to four more pounds because of the Soysoap on beans and wheat. Now the question is whatís the test weight going to be on your oats? "Tested Oats had a test weight of 38.8 pounds on a 32 pound bushel"

NC Farmer: I had one of the neighbors telling me while I was cutting and wanting to look at the oats, because he has got cattle and he was wanting something to feed and he looked at the oats and he said, ďWell, I sure look to buy some of them, they looks like western oats in all as they are yellow and shinny not the dark dull oats grown around here.Ē They picked them up and just felt and he said, They are the heavy pretty oats.Ē So I am going to get a check on and see what the test weight is running on them and see if it ainít higher then what the normal oat weight is and see if I ainít got any higher test weight.

Don Wilshe:: Well, thank you both for some great information here and we will be talking to you I am sure in the near future and looking forward to those harvests on your corn and soybeans there.

NC Farmer: Thank you.

Dr. Hesser: Thank you.

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